If anybody brought up anybody else like Queen we were like, nah, shithouse, Michael Jackson is where its at., That song had a certain poignancy for me. So it really did get kind of monstrous as a result. I feel like an unresolved human being. Raina Lampkins-Fielder introduced me to the work of the Gees Bend quilt-makers. I went to this gig last October. Debaucherous UK band Fat White Family were in NYC over the weekend, playing Bowery Ballroom on Saturday night (10/18). Between them they had the entire back catalogue including all the Bootlegs. I have a voice. Thats almost like having a chip implanted in you. Its really hard to find that place again once its got some kudos, then youre suddenly in this hall of mirrors of anxiety and expectation. Its different, now. And he is appalled by what he describes as the establishment of a state of self-surveillance. The easiest way to gain popularity online of course, is simply to regurgitate what everybody else already believes. Read the choicest cuts from the Quietus archive: reviews, features and opinion, Come To Me Villa/Gay Futures EP by DECIUS, I Blame The Music: Lias Saoudis Bakers Dozen, Music Of The Month: The Best Albums And Tracks Of February 2021, Decius Detail Debut Album, 'Decius Vol. Im sorry. I thought now would be a great time for everybody to rewatch Threads, the Sheffield-based Armageddon, now that the cold war is, well, back in fashion. Life Beyond the Neutral Zone - Lias Saoudi 03/04/2020 He would reveille at 7am, drink a strong coffee, take a bath, write until noon, luncheon, read for four hours, practice the flute for half an hour, go for a two hour walk, dine out, then take in a play or a show in town. (LogOut/ I grew quite lazy. I ask him for his opinion on the current political class. Open a drawer. Javi Aznarez drew a wonderful cartoon. I would go and stay at hers at the weekends. Life Beyond The Neutral Zone #8 - Lias Saoudi. Lias Kaci Saoudi from Fat White Family performs at We Love Green Festival Day 02 on June 5, 2016 in Paris, France. What was that experience like? They decided to bring Lias in, whose perspective as an outsider was valuable. It begins in the medieval period, but largely focuses on the 20th century and disgust theory. Lias Saoudi: Oh, sort of like auto-fiction vibes? I escaped and stood and watched it from the perimeter. Lias Saoudi, lead singer with Fat White Family, performs on the Big Top stage on day one of the Parklife 2016 Festival on June 11, 2016 in. Saoudi later tells me that, during the second or third lockdown, he cant remember which, he found himself in Ireland with another writer. I decided that on the basis of my intellectual merits and soaring grades I was beyond reprimand of any kind, that should I choose to humiliate myself rigorously using only my confused self image and a jar of sculpting gel I should be free to do so. ", Before ending his essay, Saoudi wrote, "I've got no interest in beefing with this group of individuals, only what their huge popularity represents where politics infringing on art is concerned. It was sort of a psychotherapy exercise, except Im not remotely qualified to be doing that.. Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure. Im off.. Please whitelist our site in order to continue to access The Quietus. Co-written with lucidity and humour by singer Lias Saoudi and acclaimed author Adelle Stripe, Ten Thousand Apologies is that rare thing: a music book that barely features any music, a biography as literary as any novel, and a confessional that does not seek forgiveness. It makes me angry. Tastes Good With The Money from the Serfs Up album: Fat White Familys website: https://fatwhitefamilymusic.com/, PLEASE KILL ME INTERVIEWS THE FAT WHITE FAMILY. The Absolute Mixture: Shit Art Positive by Matthew Bown. Lias Saoudi is the co-author of Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, which is published by White Rabbit. Not a chance. What if it is personal to you? Were not good at talking about our emotions, says Saoudi. Its basically his reading history: he picks 52 books Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Svetlana Alexievichs The Unwomanly Face of War and goes through his personal relationship with each of them. The lead singer of Fat White Family, one of the most debauched and exciting bands to emerge in the UK this century, is rarely without a cigarette on stage or in interviews. What do you think concerts will be like when people are allowed to gather in larger groups? By the time youve finished tinkering with them and fucking about with them you never want to hear from them ever again. You know, theres a Maya Angelou quote where someone was asking hershe disliked Thomas Wolfes book, You Cant Go Home Again. And someone asked her, why dont you like that book? I would spend a half hour each morning recasting those absurd spikes only to be pilloried by the student body and excluded from classes by the staff. If it makes him feel any better, the tundra of abuse I received from both his fanbase and that of the Sleaford Mods after that outburst did rattle me to the core. First, there's the time difference he lives in the U.K. and, second, there are pranksters like his brother and band mate Nathan, who just might answer the phone pretending to be Lias. Its the I belong bit, there can be no half-measures. Once art school finished though, once the student loan gravy train ground to a halt, I found maintaining any kind of fixed abode problematic. In recent years Ive noticed this awful feeling creeping over me every time I pick up my phone to select a track if theres folks round my flat. Words by Lias Saoudi. A couple of days ago I recorded this episode of the podcast with the group's brothers, Lias and Nathan Saoudi, who told me . Yesterday (22 September), Saoudi posted an essay on The Social clarifying his opinion on IDLES. This was definitely the most fun Ive had making record, and hopefully weve engineered it so its kudos-proof. Lias Saoudi: I read aboutthere was some stuff in this country about there being like a tracing app, stuff like that, and people having to have like the right verification on their phone before they can go to a festival. Im not particularly good at that. Its absurd. By now, momentum was ramping up exponentially. This is a compendium thats the worlds first comprehensive book-length study of the scatological in art. The kids in Cookstown, Northern Ireland, had few pastimes outside of football, setting things on fire and throwing stones at the Portuguese* on their way home from work in the evening. Born to an Algerian father and a British mother, he grew up in Scotland and Northern Ireland before moving to London to study at the Slade School of Fine Art. Its got to be one of the bravest, boldest records Ive heard in years its the brutal honesty combined with the acerbic wit of the lyricism that does it for me. I, is released via The Leaf Label on November 4. I hate videos that dont have rhythm, some are really elaborate and have a story or whatever, but most of the time I think they detract from the music, says Luke. He wrote, "In a state of frenzied arrogance around 18 months ago I took it upon myself to hurl a few digital petrol bombs at some of the countrys most beloved acts from the comfort of my hovel in Streatham. So that did create a very insidious atmosphere where the worst of everybody was getting propelled and inflamed over the course of years and there was just no get-out clause. Lias Saoudi: Maybe I dont have to, but thats the image, isnt it? Its awful., I just think itd be good to lighten the mood a little bit. Next was the single "I Am Mark E Smith" (referencing singer Mark E. Smith of the Fall), released 15 December 2014.[7]. "This was long, long, long before the preposterousness of the whole thing. Maybe thats a conventional opinion. Plans for a fourth album were temporarily ground to a halt with the advent of the pandemic, and the band were forcibly scattered to the winds with the cessation of travel between countries. I reckon we should have enough for an EP . THIS IS WHATS COOL! One of the people behind the festivals high-concept clubbing area Block9, Gideon Berger, had been one of those early fans of Come To Me Villa, and he booked Decius for a brief live slot at the zones central queer club The NYC Downlow, which was modelled after New Yorks legendary 80s venue Paradise Garage. All rights reserved. Last time I saw him it was complete shithouse, he has a rep for shithouse live gigs which hes carefully cultivated for about 30 years. He looks healthy and together now a far cry from the increasingly emaciated, tortured figure who haunted the stage as the band he formed in 2011 with his brother Nathan and Saul Adamczewski slowly ripped itself apart, poisoned by drugs, alcohol and ego. Saodi added, "When you grow up economically oppressed in a world which offers you ever diminishing prospects, a world where violence and abuse are the norm, sooner or later the hopelessness of it all has a fairly good chance of morphing into hatred: labelling these people scum isnt progressive, its decadent. Also, its that thing where youre not part of the city. Michael Jackson - 'Black Or White'. He is published inTheNew Frontier: Reflections From the Irish Border(New Island Books, 2021) an anthology of new writing from some of Irelands greatest contemporary authors marking the centenary of partition. [8][9] Lias Saoudi described the album as an attempt to really to get at the shittiness lurking in the core of my own soul, and in everybody else's.[10] It was promoted with a single for "Whitest Boy on the Beach",[11] which was later chosen for the closing credits of the 2017 film T2 Trainspotting. It was a bit heavy, that. 22/09/2020. If you love what we do, you can help tQ to continue bringing you the best in cultural criticism and new music by joining one of our subscription tiers. Fat White Family's next single, "Breaking Into Aldi", was released on 16 August 2016. Nobody was the focal point, everybody was the frontperson. Who is he to deny these people a pride in their national identity?" Did you go? [18] It is nominated for the 2023 Penderyn Music Book Prize. Otherwise everything you write is like just absolute drivel. Published 24 February 2022 by White Rabbit. Lias Kaci Saoudi is a writer, artist and musician, and the front man of genre-bending iconoclasts Fat White Family. Hes a historical figure that time is about to extinguish, reflecting back on all of that musical history. Last of the old school rock and roll frontmen, former Blur devotee, This was long, long, long before the preposterousness of the whole thing. Their second album, Songs for Our Mothers, was released in 2016 by the Without Consent label. Nihilist? But it happened much later. What are you going to do? The band were supposed to do an ultra-late-night set at Baby's All Right but it ended up not happening. Id go out and buy one. In 2011 he . Its an exquisite little collection of poems. What does the collecting impulse say about us humans? Macbeth followed it in November. Now that he lives far, far away, in distant France, where, rumour has it, hes busy raising a child, who am I supposed to turn to? The South London band has been hailed as Sweary, scary and willfully offensive (The Irish Times); a lens through which contemporary life is exposed, investigated and celebrated (Domino Records) andthe sonic equivalent of society coming unhinged (Rolling Stone). I think not. An artist has an ability to draw the line amid the chaos and mess of human experience and thats the end of it, he says, glass back down on the table. Once you snag him, though, it's tough to get the Fat White . Lias Saoudi, frontman of Fat White Family, has said he's working on a book about sex therapy.. READ MORE: Fat White Family live in London - long-awaited return of gigs finds the band on . Working together as just the two of us for so long, we do each others heads in, says Liam. And making a music video is like hanging them up on a meat hook in the public square, you dont want anything to do with that ever again. Ultimately, it all comes back to the central philosophy that emerged when they first started messing around after Lias Berghain trip the casting off of outside pressures, an emphasis on release. The Grass Arena by John Healy https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/05/biography, 5. You cant really have a bunch of tunes on while youre busy concocting alternative truths and softcore character assassinations. Lias Saoudi Folk Ensemble play live at The Social W1 as part of the first evenings celebrating the launch of the epic FWF biography Ten Thousand Apologies co. Their unsparing lyrics are often an expose of our best and worst qualities as a species, intermingled so closely that good and bad and right and wrong become hopelessly confused. Six things you love which should be better known. People have this illusion that we live in a liberal democracy, he says, but that ran out of steam quite a while ago and the world we live in is something much more akin to the one I experienced in China 12 years ago, only here people seem faintly more invested in the delusion that its anything other than a controlled society. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Whos to say what is and isnt personal to someone? Everywhere I looked. That kind of lifestyle is underrated. As they put out more singles in the build-up to their debut album (Decius Vol I, released on May 13 via their own label Decius Trax), the band also started releasing visuals that stepped out from behind the relative anonymity of their early days. People talk about a blue pill and a red pill, he says. Artist Jeremy Deller meets Jonny Banger, founder ofSports Banger: a rave/fashion/food bank/political activism collective whose latest clothing collection bears the label The People Deserve Beauty. Anybody, regardless of who you are, if you are addicted to heroin and crack, and you are living in a crack house, you are not going to behave in a way that is palatable. Saoudi, on the other hand, tells me that, generally speaking, Saul was kind of like, nah, it should be worse. Hes at liberty to capitulate if he likes, says Saoudi, who uses the word in Fat White Family song Feet. Fat White Family will be back in NYC this week for CMJ, having been added to the NME showcase at Glasslands on Wednesday (10/22) with Public Access TV, Bo Ningen, Twin Peaks, Happyness, The Wytches, and Girlpool. In choosing to attack two groups at once I believed I was demonstrating a supreme . I gave up on collecting records around 13 years ago. Its not a power that can actually be taken away from somebody. To begin reading his Bakers Dozen, click the image of him below. Theres other emotions I want to explore. Ill have a fag if Im out having a proper drink or if Im having a bit of a party, he says. The minute lockdown started to get eased in London, the old devils crept back in. [Heroin] was never the one for me. I feel less jaded, maybe, than some of my peers. Lockdown, basically. We were in London, but we were never really accepted, and it was like a building stew of animosity. FWF frontman revisits his 16-year-old self for our latest Sweet 16 column. I found it therapeutic., In Fat White Family, he continues, There was an element of chaos but it was always extremely tightly controlled and orchestrated. After the world being shrunk down to nothing, socially, to see that big explosion of color and life, it was an inspiring experience. I was really nervous, he recalls. Momentum built, but very gradually at first. They were both obsessed with Bob Dylan, whose nasal whine I was completely adverse to. Sign up with your email address to get news and updates from the Social and The Social Gathering . It didnt sell mega-well or anything like that, but loads of really cool people liked it. It found early admiration from influential DJs like Jacob Meehan, Derek Plaslaiko and Dark Entries boss Josh Cheon, for example. It seems undignified somehow. Theirs is the sound of an inverse solidarity, one that revels in the sanctimonious condemnation of people not quite up to speed whilst offering up no valid counter strategy. Typical of my big brother, hes so irresponsible in so many ways. "All that carry on, for me, is circumstantial and social. ", Get the Best Fit take on the week in music direct to your inbox every Friday, Read Lias Saoudi's full post about IDLES on. [3], They released their debut album, Champagne Holocaust, in 2013, on UK label Trashmouth Records. Lead singer Lias Saoudi, already half naked and sweating like Usain Bolt at the finish line, jittered to the front of the stage like a character in a Chris Cunningham music video and the band belted in unison, "AH AH AHHHH AHHH AHHHHHHH!" . What are you supposed to do? Lias Saoudi sits down in the pub, takes a sip of Guinness and immediately starts sucking on a vape. In exciting news for fans, it has been announced that a new book about Fat White Family is on the way. ^ "How The Metros are making a big noise in Peckham". This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. My parents had their own detatched bungalow in a fairly decent bit of town and two cars. The one thing that you can be sure of is that they will exploit it to their own nefarious ends as much as they possibly can. Retrieved 7 May 2021. I told them I thought Sash! The multi-ethnic South London-based Fat White Family has been called the 'sonic equivalent of society coming unhinged.' Their raucous onslaught is leavened with humor and social commentary, as seen in the titles of their albums (Champagne Holocaust, Serf's Up) and singles ("I Am Mark E Smith,' 'Whitest Boy On the Beach').Ingrid Jensen spoke with FWF's front man Lias Saoudi for PKM It wouldve been in my house, we had Michael Jackson records because my dad was into him. It sounds exactly like the reason we got into dance music, but fifteen years earlier says Liam, as he and his brother join Saoudi and I for drinks in a Brixton pub. Just looked like pure love, man. It was released in 2014 in the U.S. on Fat Possum Records. Discover Weekly? It did not go quite as planned. Listen to Snow Is Falling in Manhattan by Purple Mountains. Its constantly shifting. We recorded in one long take, straight on the record, no edits necessary, says Luke. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected. I had seen that film Summer of Sam with Adrien Brody on the telly, who also had a ridiculous nose, and began attempting to recreate his hairstyle. I did dabble a bit on the old Countdown, Saoudi laughs. ", The Fat White Family vocalist also wrote that the band "represent everything that is wrong with contemporary cultural politics, with a left to whom the future used to belong, in defeat now collapsing into whimsical utopianism. Ive been reading loads of stuff like that recently. There is infighting, substance abuse, the unlikely success of 2013 debut album Champagne Holocaust, squats, sackings, an appearance on The Late Show with David Letterman, songs called Love is the Crack and Goodbye Goebbels, rehab and, ultimately, with the release of Serfs Up in 2019, something like redemption. Were the classic toxic men that everybody keeps talking about. Are you going to take Caravaggio off the wall because he killed a bloke? Fat White Family's Lias Saoudi, Paranoid London's Quinn Whalley, and Trashmouth Records' Luke and Liam May discuss their sleazy, seedy new project Decius. 7 March 2008. John and Luke celebrate tQ's fourteenth birthday with a selection of their cultural highlights this month. This is the last picture I took before the underwear came off. I think its one of those things that to sort of successfully pull it off, you have to be able to pair off with somebody. The Guardian. So when Lias came in it was somebody who didnt have any kind of history with it or established reference point, so it went to other places you wouldnt expect. The closest model Lias had was Alan Vega, that kind of weird, degraded white boy soul kind of thing, where you think youre a sex beast but youre scared of your own shadow., The unsettling, quivering voice Lias employed worked perfectly with the muscular, sleazy beat that Luke and Liam gave him, and eventually it became Decius debut single Come To Me Villa. So what happened? Lias Saoudi: It was really good. . PleaseKillMe.com is the home of Please Kill Me: the Uncensored Oral History of Punk. If I could get back into that headspace I was in at the Berghain when I was doing the indie band onstage, where its not about anything other than expressing yourself in whatever freakish way it occurs to you in that moment, that would be a nice thing to import. Sarah Davachi at Lglise Saint-Eustache, Paris. Im a musician for Christs sake! Nevertheless, Lias styled it out. Mandatory school uniform meant that between the ages of 12 to 18 I wore a great big red hand of Ulster out on my chest everyday. I had moved there from the west coast of Scotland after my parents split up several years before, my mum having married an accountant from the area after throwing in the towel with my dad. Even Anish Kapoor makes an appearance. I think when you start out initially thats kind of a big part of it. It should be dirtier, it should be harsher., It is hard to imagine how it could be. Its a leap of faith, if you nail that then it usually goes down alright but if you pussy out of it then youre in trouble., Bob Dylan Key West (Philosopher Pirate), I went to see him the other night, I hadnt seen him in 20 years and it was absolutely mind-blowing. We were embroiled in this, not satanic ritual, but adjacent, and a kind of alcoholic abyss, he says. The same dozen ideas or so present themselves endlessly, or I submit and just hand over the reins to Spotify. To many in 21 st century Britain, the days of overtly political music are over, but not for Lias and his co-songwriter Saul Adamczewski, who is an admirer of 1990s post-punk outfit The Make-Up for . The publisher, White Rabbit Books, shared the news on their social media channels, writing: "Announcing Ten Thousand Apologies , Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Adelle Stripe and Lias Saoudi.". In this month's Low Culture subscriber podcast Luke Turner is joined by Lias Saoudi of Fat White Family, co-author with Adelle Stripe, of Ten Thousand Apologies, the brilliant and now best-selling account of the band's slow, troubled rise and. Making the thing is a never-ending agony, by the time its done youre like see you later. Meanwhile, Fat White Family, whose sound owes more than a little to The Fall, have a new single that tips their hat to that band's famous frontman. Its like if not now, when? It definitely planted a few seeds. Later, he was speaking with brothers Luke and Liam May, whose label Trashmouth Records had put out early releases by The Fat Whites (and their predecessor The Saudis), about his experience. Musician Lias Saoudi discusses with Ivan six things which should be better known. And it doesnt matter which part of the media spectrum you go to, theyre all trying to crank it up to the max, so they can raise their heads above the parapet, above the din. 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